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Awakened at Gilead
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Film about JWs in NYC
by truthsetsonefree inthe important and popular danish film, "world's apart," which was shown at the berlin film festival recently, was selected for the tribecca film festival and will be screened publicly (with english subtitles) five times during the coming weeks at village east cinemas and amc village vii in new york.
please pass the word.
this film depicts the story of a witness girl who steps outside of her religious community by falling in love with a "worldly" young man.
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Bethel Boys: What's the Deal with Nethinim?
by MissingLink inmy wife was asking me about the nethinim class at bethel.
i had never heard of this before.
she said they were like helpers for the gb.. for anyone who served at bethel, or knows about it - can you explain this to me?
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Awakened at Gilead
What sort of jobs do these guys do? Were they running errands and washing the socks of tht GB guys, or were they writing articles, or what? Is there status generally known?
My observation is that they were doing all the work of the GB members who were all in their 90's during the 90's before the new GB members came around.
And yes German, some of the GB may have been groomed as nethinim first.
And Winnower, I have no idea who you are or where you are coming from, but you use circular reasoning worse than the WTS. You switch the words nethinim and nephilim... What's your point? Your post is meaningless....
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A Watchtower Metaphor if I may?
by AK - Jeff inin an effort to soften my discussions with a jw who used to be close to me, i have developed a metaphor - one that does not mention religion at all.
of course we both know to what it refers - but it is my clear belief that jw's can't discuss reality straight up.
a man is convinced early in his life that he should run, and that the best running can be achieved when he runs for, and associates with, only the running corp. so, at the tender age of 4, he begins to associate as a junior runner.
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Awakened at Gilead
Nice metaphor... After reading it I am glad I am off steroids before I turn 40...
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Bethel Boys: What's the Deal with Nethinim?
by MissingLink inmy wife was asking me about the nethinim class at bethel.
i had never heard of this before.
she said they were like helpers for the gb.. for anyone who served at bethel, or knows about it - can you explain this to me?
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Awakened at Gilead
So it's strictly non-annointed people helping the GB on certain tasks then? If you are annointed and helping the GB - what is that called?
-- Or am I missing the point? --
Are you saying the the nethinim are actually GB members who are not annointed?
I served at Bethel and have met some of the "Nethinim" (i.e. Robert Wallen) so I'll give my answer.... As Gary Buss said as the anointed aged and the GB was a bunch of 90 year olds, the light back then flashed (in 1992) and Other Sheep brothers were assigned as "helpers" of the GB. I suppose that some "anointed" could also be helpers, maybe as a pre-GB phase. But that wouldn't fit into the prophetic parallel, so they probably would be officially called Nethinim as that would make the new light fuzzy. But no, if they are actually appointed GB members they must be anointed. Which is why so many these days are now waking up anointed. I wonder how this works... Do they get a letter one morning? Perhaps it looks like... Hi Brother Other Sheep, The GB is getting very old and we need new anointed ones to take over. The Nethinim idea just didn't take hold as many JWs don't get it. So now with the new light about the generation, we need additional anointed ones who may be willing to serve on the goverbing body. If you would like to serve in this capacity, please partake of the emblems at the next memorial celebration. We think you would be a good fit on the GB since you're pretty mindless and don't question any of the Watchtower's teachings. Wouldn't matter much anyway, since a 2/3 majority on the GB is needed for new light. Perks include a company car, free trips to the zone visit of your choice, and lavish Bethel rooms, since GB members don't get kicked out during room bids. Please inform us of your decision, since if you don't want to be a GB member, you are probably too old to stay at Bethel, and we will re-assign you to the field since we won't want to pay for your health problems anymore. Please be assured of our warm Christian love. Your Brothers, Personnel Commitee (for the Governing Body)
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Anyone else ever do this
by superman ini remember how much emphasis the org used to put on studying your publications, and how looking at other peoples books during the meeting was like seeing a lazar show with bright, hot, multicolored, florescent highlighted pages.
but i never personally enjoyed studying (even when i was more hardcore in it) so since i used to have privileges/responsibilities one of the requirements was to study for all the meetings, so before the meetings i would take a hot yellow and florescent blue marker and quickly just start marking up my books so that it looked like it was studied.
sometimes to look even more spiritual i would take a pen and start writing random crap in the margins, even scribble lines so from far away it looked likes cursive.
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Awakened at Gilead
His advise was - even if you don't have time to study - you should at least hilight some stuff in your magazine so it LOOKS like you studied because others in the congregation look to the pioneers as a good example.
My wife is a diehard but that's what she does when she doesn't have time to study... Must set a good example for the others.... even if it just means scribbling some yellow lines whereever they may fall.
A@G
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Why no dub buzz over the new generation change?
by oompa inor have i just missed it?
i finally had to tell my active wife about it....the wt lesson is next week but she has not read it yet, and none of her friends have mentioned it to her.
big buzz in 1995 when i was active, but hear very little except here now.
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Awakened at Gilead
I saw no major buzz over the last Generation change. After it took hold, some saw it as
proof that Jehovah cares, the FDS is always right, etc. You know, "Anything that happens is
proof that they are right and the end is near." It will be the same this time.Yeah OTWO,
I mentioned this change to my wife again, and she just got upset. She feels like you say, the FDS is always right.
A@G
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Why was the "Manking Search For God" publication never a study book?
by truthseeker inany takers?.
i'm guessing it's because people might get too curious when covering the material and wonder about different religions..
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Awakened at Gilead
IT,
Maybe its one of those cases where the writer turns apostate after trying to write something truthful and for doing a lot of research. So if your theory is true, she would be following a line of those in the evil slave class...
i.e. Ray Franz... write Aid book, realizes he's been had
i.e. Ed Dunlap, write Commentary on James, and Sacred service isn't what it used to be
and now, pretty young intelligent sister at London Bethel writes Mankind Search for God, and does her own search for God at the same time.
BTW, pretty sis, if you're on this board, spill the beans!!!
A@G
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Has anyone disassociated themselves in public at the KH?
by Awakened at Gilead ini read of someone on this site that gave a public talk and disassociated himself at the end of the talk.
has anyone here da'd by giving a comment at a meeting?????.
it would be kinda cool with the big generation light coming up to just raise my hand, say i don't believe it, and be done with it.
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Awakened at Gilead
I never heard of it being done. However, the next time I go to the Kingdumb Hell, I intend to do just that. And right into the microphone--making one of those Comments You Will Not Hear, even referring to the FDS as the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger.
That will teach them to try and recapture an apostate.
WTW, Let me know how it goes.... A@G
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Do JW's attract the mentally ill, or do their beliefs cause mental illness?
by gaiagirl inhave you observed a higher than normal number of mentall ill among jw's?
if so, do you think the religon attracts the mentally ill, or do you think that their beliefs and practices actually cause mental illness?.
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Awakened at Gilead
I think that I was starting to have mental problems because of being a witness. It doesn't help to have an elder to you "You're a walking dead man" and that if I would continue with my ways I would be destroyed at Armageddon. I began to have morbid fears of death after that, and perhaps a few panic attacks.
Leaving the guilt trip of an organization behind has done wonders for my mental outlook!!!
A@G
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Why was the "Manking Search For God" publication never a study book?
by truthseeker inany takers?.
i'm guessing it's because people might get too curious when covering the material and wonder about different religions..
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Awakened at Gilead
I remember reading through it and thinking to myself... Wow, regardles of which religion we are compared to, we still have the truth...
Now I can see what a clever propaganda tool it is, but I agree that it might make thinking persons think. The average witness would probably take evrything at face value and say (like I did) it's wonderful that we are in the truth!